I've Always Found It Weird That Bug Noir Said To Reveal The Truth To Adrien Whenever She Reclaimed The

We've gotten both "Gabriel Agreste is Ladybug" and "Marinette is Monarch" in the first arc, so what if we get "Chat Noir is Lila" and "The new hawk moth is Adrien Agreste" in this arc

Marinette needs to learn that you can not just pass around leadership without noticing the team itself first.

Like, imagine if a King dies, then some rando becomes the next King, but not even the castle staff knew about the rando, and the rando just says, "The King said I would be in charge!" 😭

The first parallel that popped into my head about Lila and Adrien is that they're both good at disguises.

Lila has long, ginger hair with green eyes.

Daphne has glasses, black, medium lenght hair, and blue eyes.

Cerice has a brunette pixie cut and brown eyes.

Iris has blond hair in a ponytail and (I think) dark blue eyes.

There's the butler/maid outfit with black hair up in a bun and green eyes.

The new Hawkmoth is currently just a purple figure for us and even uses multiple voices to hide who she truly is.

Adrien is well, Adrien. (I can't really come up with something unique for him as Adrien)

Felix is identical to Adrien, so all Adrien needs to do to "be" Felix is just to change his hairstyle and wear a suit.

Chat Noir has a different hairstyle than Adrien and has cat-eyes.

Cat walker has green hair in a ponytail and has cat-eyes.

Aspik is bald. You can't even see his ears, and he have snake eyes.

Even when he's Chat Noir without being transformed, you can't be truly sure it is him because you can't really see his whole body (banana noir and when he used boxes in oblivio).

Luka and claw Noir knows Chat Noir is Adrien.

Luka and Ladybug know Aspik was Adrien.

No one knows Cat Walker was Adrien.

(Bunnix gets excluded because of time-travel)

No one has seemed to figure out Lila's identities. Heck, we don't really know who she is!

It's said, either by themself of other people, that they know multiple launguges.

Adrien knows French, English, Mandarin, Acient greece and Japanese.

Lila says she knows multiple launguges (she may have lied, she may have not).

There's also that they both know Non-Verbal Code/Launguges (I'm not sure what to call it).

Adrien knows Morse code.

Lila knows Sign Launguge.

Umm so I had a thought...

You know how Marinette and Gabriel are supposed to be foils, and there are clear mirrors in both their personalities and their ambitions. Except- you know, Gabriel is evil and power hungry and selfish, whereas Marinette is motivated by justice and is incredibly self-sacrificing.

What if Miraculous continues to draw this parallel between protagonist and antagonist, except this time not with Marinette... this time with Adrien?!

At first glance, there might be very little tying Lila (cerise?... for the sake of this post she is Lila) and Adrien together. But delving further there are actually quite a lot of parallels.

Adrien and Lila are both social chameleons who had been showcased by Gabriel to function as a figurehead for his company. They are both desperate to make friends and social connections at school (albeit for different reasons), have a preoccupation with Maribug, and both come from very mysterious/shady backgrounds. The main difference, again, between these characters is that Adrien acts with empathy and altruism, and Lila acts with maleficence and self-interest.

The Adrien and Lila parallel has actually been referenced a few times in the show, but what I find most interesting is the scene at the end of the episode "Ladybug" where Adrien makes his first threat to Lila.

This episode follows a pattern of nearly every Lila episode, where Lila does something and Marinette is powerless to act. And while it is shown in season 5 that Marinette does in fact manage to take Lila down, we as the audience are well aware that she is far from gone and will be coming back with new vengeance.

The thing is, prior to that season 5 episode, Adrien's threat is the first thing to actually work. Adrien understands Lila, by nature of his life I am sure, he is surrounded by Lila's all day. While we know that Adrien chooses to see the best in people and may take time to identify threats to himself and those he loves, once he does, he is well adept at handling manipulators. After all, he'd hardly be able to survive in his own home if he couldn't.

In seasons 1-5 it became clear that Ladybug, moreso that Chat Noir, was able to defeat Hawkmoth, because she understood the way he thought and was able to plan accordingly. Already in the London special, Ladybug was having trouble facing the new Hawkmoth. Notably, Chat Noir was not there.

I just wonder what the potential dynamic will be between Chat Noir and the New Hawkmoth and if in fact, they will be positioned as foils...

In Werepapas: If the Amok DID escape and, in turn, kill Adrien, how would Ladybug explain all of that?

What would she say to the people who knew he was a senti? Would she say that she knowingly broke the rings and she killed him?

How would Natalie, someone who parented Adrien, and was ready to become his guardian react?

How would Felix, whose whole thing is to protect sentibeings and trusted Ladybug with vital information about him and Adrien, showing her where both of their Amoks are, react?

How would Kagami react?

What about Adrien's grandparents?

Would Ladybug explain that the Grand De Vanily daughter used a broken miraculous that slowly killed her? (Of course, there's a chance they already know that). Would she say that the Grassets son was a terrorist because of Emelies death? Would ladybug say that their grandson they've just met got killed by her?

What about Adrien's friends?

Would she tell them she killed their friend, Adrien was a sentibeing, and didn't warn him about who he was before it was too late?

How would Alya, who knows who Ladybug is under the mask, react to that?

How would Luka, who knows who both Ladybug and Chat noir are, react?

What about Nino, whose best friend died?

What about the public?

She has no excuse to lie about Monarch anymore because her main motivation was to "protect" Adrien, but now her main reason for lying is gone, so would she just reveal everything about Monarch then? Would she continue to lie because of.. reasons?

Adrien is a very liked person and celebrity, so if the people found out Ladybug both called Monarch a hero and killed Adrien Agreste, they would NOT be a fan of Ladybug anymore.

What about Plagg?

Adrien being gone would also mean Chat noir is gone, so would Plagg tell Marinette that Adrien was Chat Noir, or would he lie and tell her "he quit"? Who would be the next chat noir? He can't choose Kitty Noir, because choosing any of the miraculers would risk the new holders' identity.

Of course, there's Bunnix that would probably help because, well, Adrien's Chat Noir, but what if he wasn't Chat Noir? Would bunnix still help Ladybug? I mean, having Adrien gone isn't really a world ending event, and even if many people get Akumatized, the miraculers could still fight them.

Ladybug killing Adrien Agreste would honestly just ruin the crap out of Ladybug's reputation and not be a physical world ending event, so would Bunnix really need to help?

What if the bunny miraculous didn't exist? What would happen then???

Anyway, I hope someone makes a fanfic about this, because there were, and ARE, a risk in Adrien not knowing he's a senti.

Felix: "I want to keep Sentibeings safe"

Also Felix: *doesn't tell Adrien he's a sentibeing, even though the rings are in Adrien's possession*

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Marinette: "I want to protect Adrien"

Also Marinette: *Breaks the rings withholding Adriens amok, knowing that could've caused Adrien's death*

I want Adrien to fake his death when he find out (on his own) that he's a senti, so that everyone who kept it a secret from him would realise they've messed up bad in giving him the rings while not telling him the real importance of them.

"Oh, but if you were in Marinette's position, you'd do the same as her" (calling Gabriel a hero).

I. Would. Not.

First of all, I do not like to lie. Whenever I do lie, I'll just come clean some seconds later because lying makes me feel anxious and bad.

Secondly, if my partners' dad imprisoned them, brainwash the entire world, put people's life in danger multiple times for months, use my partners face (which made my partner uncomfortable) on an AI softwere and (insert every other bad thing Gabriel has done), calling him a hero would make me feel sick to my stomach.

You can not assume that everyone will do the same because not everyone is the same.

Someone might have done the same as Mari.

Someone might've kept quiet about everything and let another person tell the truth.

Someone might've kept quiet and let the partner figure the stuff on their own.

Someone might've revealed the truth to the partner, exclusively.

Someone might've revealed the truth to everyone.

Someone, not everyone.

We are all different individuals with different upbringings, cultures, religions, families, ethnicities, nationalities, wants, needs, likes, interests, hobbies, passions, goals, dislikes, personalities, sexualities, gender, looks, skills, flaws, and the list just keeps going on, that makes us who we are.

If I had a nickel for every time Bryce Papenbrook voiced a teenage boy, from a non english media, that got hidden that they're not really human and that their dad was/is evil, has an part of them externally that can kill them if it gets in the wrong hands, their twin ("twin") knew about who they were before they did, their twin ("twin") seems to be older but actually is the younger of the two, the "evil-version" of them has white hair, got adopted by their parents friend that seemed to have romantic feelings for the parent, their mother died because of they way they were born, people say they're similar to their mother, been referred to as a prince, are scared their power might hurt somone, and got animalistic features when they got their powers, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's REALLY weird that it happened twice.

The flashbacks I get from this pose

Whenever the truth gets out about Monarch being Gabriel Agreste, a lot of people could assume that Adrien hates Chat Noir because Chat Noir Catalysmd Gabriel, AKA Adrien's father.

There's also that people would assume Chat Noir knew the about lie and was in on it so that Adrien wouldn't hate him.