darkwatcher beloved. havent drawn him in a while.
Ooh, can I have some info on Ajcloud please?
Does she play a part in Starclan kicking Night right back to the curb?
yeah :D assuming you mean ashcloud lol
so she was Alpine's first medic when it formed, and was killed at the end of its civil war along with Ravenheart, allegedly by Night. StarClan has like a council which makes up its main authority. Ashcloud is on it as well as a few others (so when i refer to StarClan, a lot of the time im mostly referring to those guys as they're in charge).
Ash's ‘job’ mostly consists of things like the security along the barrier between starclan and the dark forest and handling security-like issues with the living clans (like stopping revolts/conspiracies/wars etc).
to avoid revealing anything too much, Ash obviously gets pretty mad when she fails at that and Night destroys everything. so yeah while StarClan’s later return is attributed more to Ravenheart (and that certainly didn’t help) Ash’s actions, which i wont explicitly say, are the ones that really cause Night’s whole thing to fall apart :] like the final straw kind of thing, which is why i said Night's response was more directed at Ash rather than StarClan as a whole here:
yknow on the topic of the pmv im making, I don’t think finch ever tells night what she did to get banished to the dark forest. she might have personally accepted it, but how could she admit that to night? what could she possibly say? the whole reason she did something horrible was in support of night, who in her eyes doesn't deserve to be in literal hell. what night's doing is good, right and selfless.
whereas finch? she's doing the exact opposite. she's just a monster fighting for liberation that she doesn't even deserve.
okk
aww look bonding with children. nothing bad can come of that right
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here's a Night sketch from the video too
aww look bonding with children. nothing bad can come of that right
aww look bonding with children. nothing bad can come of that right
Signs of Hell from Good Omens season 2
sky's looking a little weird today
some starclan stuff! finally touching up my green starclan concept
the second image is a timeline thing if that wasn't clear btw (BSL: before shattered loyalty) StarClan started out nice and blue but they're now green :/ wonder why
Thanks for answering my ramblings about Starclan!
If I may pull some last nonsense because It's 3 in the morning and I am feeling very yappy, Night is very "Captain Ahab from Money dick" coded. Chasing down something vast and in her obsession sealing her own downfall.
It is very funny to think about the Starclan cats remaining just going "We are doomed, we have lost it all, our hubris shall now be eternally damne-" sees the ball of issues that is currently running the dark forest and having a breakdown "Oh.... Well, maybe we won't be that doomed after all."
YEAH THANK YOU FOR FEEDING MY THOUGHTS
i'd agree that sounds very Night, the main idea (?) behind her character for me is self-destruction/downfall as a result of the cycle of destruction/violence etc, like i use a snake a lot in her art because that originated from ouroboros imagery lol.
and honestly that is pretty much exactly how it goes.. T_T so sad. rip dark forest.
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Yah, that was about night, sorry about how esoteric I decided to be, but I saw your posts about her and I just got to thinking about the... logistical problems with trying to fight a bunch of dead people, let alone the fact it's a religion.
HI. HIII. THANK YOU. I TOOK THIS AND I RAN. I warned about me spewing a really lengthy response and I did oops
(so StarClan isn't really a religious aspect of the colonies at all. in-universe this is because when Alpine was founded, it was made out of cats who either already had established religious beliefs (gods, basically, it’s not very fleshed out because it’s not important), or weren't religious at all (for example, Night). Personally, I just don't find interest in exploring religion lmao. A lot of wc oc stories have already done it, and probably done it better than I ever could.)
So, StarClan's very much a more government-ish figure for the colonies BUT YEAH obviously there’s gonna be weird stuff going on with it even if it’s not a religion, they’re dead cats in an afterlife lol.
Silverpelt refers to the afterlife here basically, and StarClan/dark forest are only one part of silverpelt. It’s only specific to the colonies. Also present everywhere in the Clans’ territories is silverstone - a green coloured mineral that is believed to give the Clans a greater connection to silverpelt, and subsequently StarClan
I love the eldritch takes on StarClan, but in my story that stuff’s more rooted in silverstone. StarClan is just a bunch of normal dudes lmao
StarClan might have power in influence, but in terms of physical, real, tangible power they can’t do much. They have no control over silverpelt, no control even over the dark forest, and the only control they have, really, is of the colonies through the codes and stuff
In terms of experience, Night's as old as the oldest StarClan cat, as established above, so she's at the very least equal in combat and strategic experience to Ashcloud, who I would say is in charge of the cat equivalent of '''''military''''' activities in StarClan (not much, they don't have a need to fight).
I can make the argument that she has more experience, considering she was the second-highest-ranking authoritative figure in Alpine's early civil war, and the clans haven't had anything close to that extent of fighting since. Their modern training probably isn't cutting it anymore.
(Like, if most of StarClan is a) made of cats who haven't ever experienced active conflict, and b) commanded by cats who think the dark forest will never be a problem, how would they really fare against a dark forest army that Night's essentially been training for war for literally over 400 years, when the barrier between them and the dark forest inevitably fails? Spoiler™: they don't fare well lol)
The key is that StarClan's arrogant. They don't think the dark forest will ever be a real problem for them, so they don't prepare for it or try to prevent it. Of course Night's going to win (initially)
Night later 'loses everything' as Silver implies, it’s not because StarClan had all the time in the world and had more experience than her. It is technically because of StarClan returning, but it's tied much closer with Rainpaw's involvement (not relevant rn) and a rooting in Night's internal struggles at this point (becoming what you hate).
a lot of Night's character after she destroys starclan (into part 3 of SL) is very much involved with like. a character caught between what's defined her existence for a long time to the point she cant remember who she was before, and the certainty that she can’t get back to that person even though she needs to, and she needs to because becoming something equal to or worse than her enemy is an unbearable thought..? if that makes sense
It's complicated, but this essentially culminates in a fall out between her and Finch. Then enter: the destructive cycle metaphors that this whole story is built on.
StarClan ‘working so great as an enemy because fighting them is something that is only ever going to hurt you more than them' is SO TRUE AND YOU WORDED IT BEAUTIFULLY.
exactly what happens with Night. After everything, they didn't really change, while she lost a lot. But it’s one of those situations where it can’t have gone any other way. She can't get what she had back until starclan's defeated, but defeating starclan renders it impossible for her to get. Either way she loses.
Your point about StarClan being eternal and therefore the colonies being eternal also is also very true and very fun.
I might even say, in this instance, that StarClan and the colonies are eternal through silverstone, and by extension so is their destruction.. :]
Sorry for word vomiting so many words in a tumblr post. I doubt anyone will read this all but. I had fun.
I guess that's why you don't try fighting the dead, they got all the time in the world, and they got you beat in experience
hi what are you talking about. are you talking about Night. because if you're talking about Night then theres a very real possibility i could spew out a really lengthy discussion of this 👀
shes a little sensitive about that, i wouldn't bring it up :[
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you know, I've been thinking, after this trail of carnage, I might just hang my sword up. just gotta slay these last few villains and I'll have evil solved, and there will be a place for me in this peaceful world I've created. with the sword.
wip :]
omg hello stock photo/traced over warrior cat fanfiction book covers I made when I was 12….. it’s been so long..
clearly I didn’t in fact like the stock photos and these are actually kind of ok if you overlook the cats traced from photos lol
omg hello stock photo/traced over warrior cat fanfiction book covers I made when I was 12….. it’s been so long..
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omg hello stock photo/traced over warrior cat fanfiction book covers I made when I was 12….. it’s been so long..
omg hello stock photo/traced over warrior cat fanfiction book covers I made when I was 12….. it’s been so long..
here I offer a Night :] realised I haven’t posted in a bit noo
I'd like to say, your artstyle forever changed how I drew certain things (Like fur, eyes, mouths, etc.), and I mean this in the most positive way possible 🤞
WHA 😦 REALLY
thats really crazy, I think yours has also influenced how I drew some certain things :0 VERY POSITIVELY I love your artstyle
have I introduced u to these guys
have another moonpaw
this is my stupid drawing to cope with what i have done to her