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can you imagine. 17776 but instead of juice we get. jimo. jim-o. jim
Mmmm. 17776 might be one of the few utopian pieces of fiction I can actually see as beautiful and a world I wouldn’t mind living in. I think it’s because tragedy exists within it. And it’s mundane tragedy and also tragedy that is physically incomprehensible to us, who WILL die one day, but very much emotionally comprehensible because it stretches out tragedy’s scope and bounds and who can be considered tragic (the sunken city of New York, where everyone survived but the city is still gone. The lightbulb which stayed on for hundreds of years. The concept of being in love and having to be away from each other for 100 years, even though you are quite literally immortal.) like taffy . And still joy exists, and joy- mundane, pleasant, playful joy- is the force pushing continued existence, pushing the sentience of space probes, pushing the desire for us to pointlessly, happily, play
gonna start describing 17776 to friends as "big football"
maybe even big football and the sentient robots
ok reposting this here on my 17776 dedicated blog
i genuinely wanna make like a 17776 version of golf now
like golf but its crazy huge and has weird rules
i might make a computer game for it but thatd like suck to fully develop
maybe ill use google map data to procedurally generate a world
i could also like spend months making a map generator but i dont fell like that jaja
easiest method would be to make like a topdown golf like in 8- and 16-bit games
big golf coming
Genius fucking idea right here
ok so im putting together a video essay and ive been rereading 17776 and 20020 for it and i just got the best idea
so an online football videogame where each person is a player and yall all got proximity chat and stuff and its like football
like theres a ball and you gotta like run it and get to the goals n shit
but each player is an individual human and the field is really fucking long
there should probably be obstacles too just so you arent running through miles of nothingness
but basically every day you and the GANG have a 1 hour schuduled long football time where you play the football one hour
and then do the same thing next day
idk how many players youd need and get rid of all of the stupid football rules and make it simple n shit so you don't have to really worry about stupid stuff but mainly just runball
but long too
its like 17776 irl
i want it
sorry its late and i cant sleep
oh yeah and if you havent read 17776 or 20020, first, this is american football but actualy euro football would work too. and second, READ 17776 AND 20020 ITS SO GOOD
hey it's me jon bois i got logged out of my account if u could paypal me 20000$ so I can finish 20021 that would be great
Wanna watch some football?
I gave nine two colors bc I was using the space craft and the text color from the narrative :,]
Salmon Run
A HEFTY VOICE MESSAGE FROM LOUISE CARRIGAN TO HER WIFE, ANNE DAVIS, FALL 17770.
Immortality’s a funny thing. I think—I think I forgot how to struggle. Before us, I mean. You know, back home in Alaska. Yeah, of course there was always some kinda crap, but mostly it was the same stuff day-in-day-out. I’d go to work in the morning and leave work in the afternoon. My job was important, sure, but I’d been doing it so long it just felt like busywork. The day I got my position, though, it felt good. That was what, almost sixteen thousand years ago? Way before we met...
Isn’t that crazy? I lived almost a hundred and sixty lifetimes before I met you.
It definitely didn’t feel like it.
Anyways, on with the message—sorry, this one’s gonna be a devil to listen to. Tell your brother I say hi, by the way! I’m only about 9 hours to Asheville now. Might be a tad more, ‘cause the truck tire just popped. You know, it was just some nail lying about on the road. And the thing is, the roads here are real nice!
ANYWAYS, for real this time, I was finally doing something to give back to the environment. Lord, we really fucked everything up. When I took the job, the chinook runs were really bad. I mean, so many of those salmon were dying during the run or before the run and it was just hell at the fishery. It got better, of course. It all got better, but then there wasn’t this constant stress anymore. After a while they were fine. Still needed management, but it wasn’t as crazy as it used to be. No more fighting with the fishermen ‘cause they didn’t live off of it, you know. Most of the people who fished then were just hobbyists and families—didn’t need much management then. So I went to work and I picked up any book I had lying around the house. This was before I went to college for the first time, so it was just everything I had from high school.
So I started reading Catcher in the Rye, you know, with Holden Caulfield and that hunting hat of his? And I was reading it at work and he said something that kinda snapped me out of everything. He said, “mothers are all slightly insane.” And you know what, that really got me thinking. My mom had been gone a while and I’d been at peace with it a while, too. There were hard days and there will always be hard days, but what I really missed was something she used to do when I was in high school. You know how much of a shit I was then, I took nothing seriously, and you know, she’d always tell me, “God’s watching, Louise.” It wasn’t in too serious a tone, but man, she said it all the damn time. And whenever I fumble one of your absolute dimes, I hear her in my head, going “God’s watching, Louise.” And she had that real thick Appalachian accent too—if you thought mine was bad, you shoulda met her. And I’d tell her right back, “Oh I know he’s watching. Bet he’s cracking up watching me stumble ‘cross the field.”
Anyways, back then when I worked at the fishery, I never did anything that would make her say that. Nothing that was crucial—you know, critical, in-the-moment stuff that God would wanna be watching. I had so much time there. I still have so much time here. And so one day I went out to one of the rivers and I looked at all the salmon, swimming upstream and strugglin’ forever against the current. And I said to myself, I wanna do that. I wanna feel anxious again. I wanna be embarrassed again. I want to trip over my own shoelaces in the middle of the big game.
And it’s kinda funny, cause after that happens, you’re like, “good Lord Above, I never wanna experience that ever again.” But it’s a lie, cause when things get too good, then they’re not good anymore, you know? And I guess that why we do it. Why I keep going back to college even though school’s always my least favorite thing in the whole wide world. And why I keep trying new sports even though the only one I’m good at is that damned football. Hey, I mean, hockey’s fun, but Christ am I a crap skater.
And I guess most important, it’s how I met you—Lord do I remember that! Spillin’ my water and all that fuss. Damn near our whole relationship was swimming upstream, you know that? But shit if it wasn’t worth it. Everything was worth it. I mean, I’ll probably use that radiochemistry knowledge somewhere…
Well, I don’t even know what I’m talking about anymore. I was just thinking and didn’t want to forget anything. But now I’m rambling again. Sorry bout that. Now this thing’s gonna be like an hour long. I’ve gotta quit while I’m ahead. Love you, babe. See you tomorrow.
More Louise 17776!
yes the first graphic is based on the blues traveler song... whenever i hear it it reminds me of game 96249 and then i get to thinking about Louise again
+ Delivering on the NC flyer. Save the date!!!
(mountain images i used r all under cc)
Got into 17776 and just finished 20020. My mind is buzzing. so i made an oc. I love nothing if not sports
A bunch of stuff ft. Louise and a little flyer i made for my made up Alaskan all stars series.. North Carolina coming next cause i gotta represent my state ✊
pioneer 9 patch i made for my pants! im currently working on 10, and JUICE is next.
I posted this on a discord a while back, but I decided I should post a version here too. That being said, I present to you:
I HAVE GAZED INTO THE ABYSS AND THE ABYSS ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO WATCH A GAME
or
The culmination of a feverish night of theory crafting after a sudden epiphany like a vision from an angry god, which may or may not be pertinent to the plot of “20021, a Football Story” by Jon Bois, whenever that comes out
See, okay, the whole deal with this thing is; If either Nick and Manny get caught and fail to bring the footballs home, or succeed and bring the footballs home, it will become a big story that it was only two guys who stole the footballs from Georgia Tech. This tells Michigan State that the locomotive lateral was performed by two guys, and thus, it would have been almost impossible for them to split the balls up, meaning the 9 balls that MI ST went up by at the end of the locomotive lateral would have been all the balls that GTECH had (given that it dropped in rank to the 0 ball teams at the same time as MI ST increased by 9). If someone from MI ST took a screenshot of their scoreboard before and after the lateral they would be able to tell that by the time the lateral was completed:
1: MI ST has 24 balls
2: GA SO has at most 14 balls because they were a place below MI ST before the lateral when Michigan had 15 balls
3: SC ST has at most 8 balls because they were a place below GTECH, which (based on the number of balls MI ST increased by and GTECH’s ranking afterward) had 9 balls before the lateral
4: CIN, HOW, and TEX likely have 3 balls each, and if they’re not sure MI ST can collaborate with one of them. Additionally, if you know that a certain team has a certain number of balls at any point in the game, then if the ranking group that team is in never drops below 2 teams, then you will always know everyone in that ranking group will have that same amount of balls even if the original team drops out of that ranking group, due to the sheer unlikelihood of every team in a ranking group gaining or losing exactly the same amount of balls at the same time. Remember, it can be days between scoreboard changes. There is a good chance that every team already knows the tied for 5th ranking group have 3 balls each.
5. If you know CIN, HOW, and TEX each have 3, then MO through to UTEP must have 2 balls each
6. There are 28 teams with exactly one ball each. The 1 ball teams extend into the remaining teams section, where you normally would not be able to see rankings and wouldn’t be able to tell which ones are 1 ball teams and which ones are goose egg (0 ball) teams. However: all teams in the same rank are organized alphabetically, and you can see that the alphabetization resets between Washington State University and Air Force Academy. Therefore a MI ST player would be able to know there are 28 one ball teams.
So: 24+14+8+3*3+2*5+1*28=93
111-93=18 balls hidden off the field, one more than the number UAB is hiding in Stannard Rock Lighthouse
Will Michigan State find 18 missing balls alarming? I don’t know. Depends on the kind of story Jon Bois wants to write. I want to believe they will, starting a frenzy that uncovers UAB’s hidden dynasty as the most powerful team in the entire college bowl, which somehow forces UAB to resurrect their steamroller play One Last Time.
Maybe that’ll give Val something to talk about, other than loathsome mosquitoes lurking in limestone quarry ponds, which may or may not have contributed to the construction of the Empire State Building.
I can only say one thing for certain:
Stay in school, kids. It makes you better at cross-country football.
10 & JUICE designs (for now)
hey it's me jon bois i got logged out of my account if u could paypal me 20000$ so I can finish 20021 that would be great
I'm working on something related to 17776/20020. Just curious, do any of you have any thoughts on the series like themes, meanings, anything that stuck w you specifically? or what you didn't like about it?
Still working on designs, I've been leaning towards v-kei for 10
juice catsona but now it's just a fursona
On a similar note, I have Manny and Nick cat designs, but I'm unsure if I should just make them people for the sake of differentiating them
so working on my 17776 designs and it's so hard to decide if I should make the panels on JUICE proportional or not
so working on my 17776 designs and it's so hard to decide if I should make the panels on JUICE proportional or not
I made a dice box for my Homebrew 20020 TTRPG campaign.
Turns out you can print copyrighted images if it's at a small print shop. Got a cropped version of the poster on a sticker and stuck it to a blank lunchbox.
In light (haha) of the recent eclipse, I’d like to point out that it was during an eclipse in 1868 that French Astronomer Jules Janssen observed an unusual spectral line produced when he pointed his telescope at the partially obscured sun. He assumed that it corresponded to the spectrum of Sodium.
Observation by English astronomer Norman Lockyer later that year revealed it to be a different element. The first one discovered on a distant celestial sphere before it was discovered on Earth. He chose to name it after the sun.
In 1968, one hundred years later, a space probe was launched to orbit around and study the sun.
A step-by-step with helpful diagrams, for clarity’s sake:
The Michigan State version of the scoreboard before and after the lateral:
Extrapolating from there:
↙Before|After↘
It should be noted that Georgia Tech pre lateral is distinguished from Georgia Tech post lateral (GT/GTECHPRE vs. GT/GTECHPOST)
Using any of the various methods mentioned in deduction 4 of the previous post, we get:
Thank you for listening to me infodump! 💫
I posted this on a discord a while back, but I decided I should post a version here too. That being said, I present to you:
I HAVE GAZED INTO THE ABYSS AND THE ABYSS ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO WATCH A GAME
or
The culmination of a feverish night of theory crafting after a sudden epiphany like a vision from an angry god, which may or may not be pertinent to the plot of “20021, a Football Story” by Jon Bois, whenever that comes out
See, okay, the whole deal with this thing is; If either Nick and Manny get caught and fail to bring the footballs home, or succeed and bring the footballs home, it will become a big story that it was only two guys who stole the footballs from Georgia Tech. This tells Michigan State that the locomotive lateral was performed by two guys, and thus, it would have been almost impossible for them to split the balls up, meaning the 9 balls that MI ST went up by at the end of the locomotive lateral would have been all the balls that GTECH had (given that it dropped in rank to the 0 ball teams at the same time as MI ST increased by 9). If someone from MI ST took a screenshot of their scoreboard before and after the lateral they would be able to tell that by the time the lateral was completed:
1: MI ST has 24 balls
2: GA SO has at most 14 balls because they were a place below MI ST before the lateral when Michigan had 15 balls
3: SC ST has at most 8 balls because they were a place below GTECH, which (based on the number of balls MI ST increased by and GTECH’s ranking afterward) had 9 balls before the lateral
4: CIN, HOW, and TEX likely have 3 balls each, and if they’re not sure MI ST can collaborate with one of them. Additionally, if you know that a certain team has a certain number of balls at any point in the game, then if the ranking group that team is in never drops below 2 teams, then you will always know everyone in that ranking group will have that same amount of balls even if the original team drops out of that ranking group, due to the sheer unlikelihood of every team in a ranking group gaining or losing exactly the same amount of balls at the same time. Remember, it can be days between scoreboard changes. There is a good chance that every team already knows the tied for 5th ranking group have 3 balls each.
5. If you know CIN, HOW, and TEX each have 3, then MO through to UTEP must have 2 balls each
6. There are 28 teams with exactly one ball each. The 1 ball teams extend into the remaining teams section, where you normally would not be able to see rankings and wouldn’t be able to tell which ones are 1 ball teams and which ones are goose egg (0 ball) teams. However: all teams in the same rank are organized alphabetically, and you can see that the alphabetization resets between Washington State University and Air Force Academy. Therefore a MI ST player would be able to know there are 28 one ball teams.
So: 24+14+8+3*3+2*5+1*28=93
111-93=18 balls hidden off the field, one more than the number UAB is hiding in Stannard Rock Lighthouse
Will Michigan State find 18 missing balls alarming? I don’t know. Depends on the kind of story Jon Bois wants to write. I want to believe they will, starting a frenzy that uncovers UAB’s hidden dynasty as the most powerful team in the entire college bowl, which somehow forces UAB to resurrect their steamroller play One Last Time.
Maybe that’ll give Val something to talk about, other than loathsome mosquitoes lurking in limestone quarry ponds, which may or may not have contributed to the construction of the Empire State Building.
I can only say one thing for certain:
Stay in school, kids. It makes you better at cross-country football.
I posted this on a discord a while back, but I decided I should post a version here too. That being said, I present to you:
I HAVE GAZED INTO THE ABYSS AND THE ABYSS ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO WATCH A GAME
or
The culmination of a feverish night of theory crafting after a sudden epiphany like a vision from an angry god, which may or may not be pertinent to the plot of “20021, a Football Story” by Jon Bois, whenever that comes out
See, okay, the whole deal with this thing is; If either Nick and Manny get caught and fail to bring the footballs home, or succeed and bring the footballs home, it will become a big story that it was only two guys who stole the footballs from Georgia Tech. This tells Michigan State that the locomotive lateral was performed by two guys, and thus, it would have been almost impossible for them to split the balls up, meaning the 9 balls that MI ST went up by at the end of the locomotive lateral would have been all the balls that GTECH had (given that it dropped in rank to the 0 ball teams at the same time as MI ST increased by 9). If someone from MI ST took a screenshot of their scoreboard before and after the lateral they would be able to tell that by the time the lateral was completed:
1: MI ST has 24 balls
2: GA SO has at most 14 balls because they were a place below MI ST before the lateral when Michigan had 15 balls
3: SC ST has at most 8 balls because they were a place below GTECH, which (based on the number of balls MI ST increased by and GTECH’s ranking afterward) had 9 balls before the lateral
4: CIN, HOW, and TEX likely have 3 balls each, and if they’re not sure MI ST can collaborate with one of them. Additionally, if you know that a certain team has a certain number of balls at any point in the game, then if the ranking group that team is in never drops below 2 teams, then you will always know everyone in that ranking group will have that same amount of balls even if the original team drops out of that ranking group, due to the sheer unlikelihood of every team in a ranking group gaining or losing exactly the same amount of balls at the same time. Remember, it can be days between scoreboard changes. There is a good chance that every team already knows the tied for 5th ranking group have 3 balls each.
5. If you know CIN, HOW, and TEX each have 3, then MO through to UTEP must have 2 balls each
6. There are 28 teams with exactly one ball each. The 1 ball teams extend into the remaining teams section, where you normally would not be able to see rankings and wouldn’t be able to tell which ones are 1 ball teams and which ones are goose egg (0 ball) teams. However: all teams in the same rank are organized alphabetically, and you can see that the alphabetization resets between Washington State University and Air Force Academy. Therefore a MI ST player would be able to know there are 28 one ball teams.
So: 24+14+8+3*3+2*5+1*28=93
111-93=18 balls hidden off the field, one more than the number UAB is hiding in Stannard Rock Lighthouse
Will Michigan State find 18 missing balls alarming? I don’t know. Depends on the kind of story Jon Bois wants to write. I want to believe they will, starting a frenzy that uncovers UAB’s hidden dynasty as the most powerful team in the entire college bowl, which somehow forces UAB to resurrect their steamroller play One Last Time.
Maybe that’ll give Val something to talk about, other than loathsome mosquitoes lurking in limestone quarry ponds, which may or may not have contributed to the construction of the Empire State Building.
I can only say one thing for certain:
Stay in school, kids. It makes you better at cross-country football.
I recently took a trip to San Diego to visit my cousin, so I decided to stop by SDSU campus to take pictures of the field Nick and Manny trained on.
Which brings me to an interesting point. This thing Juice said about getting a new stadium but plans falling through?
Plans did not fall through IRL! The old stadium built at an angle that makes the whole 20020 plot possible? Demolished to build a new stadium.
Pictured:
• The original SDCCU Stadium
• The new Snapdragon Stadium being built
• The finished Snapdragon stadium
Where the old field stood is now a parking lot.
Here is a picture of the exact patch of gravel.
Here’s the new stadium shot from where the old stadium stood.
Here are some panos taken standing where the old field was!
