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anyways i really do want dabi and rei to meet face to face and her start crying and him tenderly lifting her chin before putting on some big sloppy grin and telling her how miserable of a creature she is and then proceed to set her ablaze. King. bonus if it’s in front of the rest of the family.
Tenko Shimura's ‘allergies’ and the implications thereof
I think most people always agreed that Tenko's allergies were - in some form or another - emotion-based. Back in 235 we get the infamous "it only itches at home line" line.
It's also emphasized again later in the chapter when we see that the itching gets progressively worse after Kotaro yells at Tenko (meaning that it gets worse when Tenko is sad and/or in distress).
Back in the day, I saw a lot of people theorizing that the itch was a sign of Decay and that it was the early stages of the quirk manifesting within Tenko. But given what we know now, about AFO giving Tenko the quirk and especially when he gave Tenko the quirk, I don't think that this is the case.
We can pretty much pinpoint exactly when AFO gave Tenko the Decay quirk.
These two panels are from 235 and 419 - and I firmly believe that these panels take place only minutes apart from each other. This is also clearly the moment that AFO gave Decay over to Tenko, as shown by the small glow of his hand. Before this point Tenko Shimura was quirkless.
Tenko got his original quirk stolen from him when he was just a baby - meaning that during the time between being an infant and being 5-years-old, Tenko was officially quirkless. This makes a huge difference if we then look back at his allergies and why they appear.
This panel is from just before AFO takes Tenko's hand and gives him the Decay quirk. Look at his face. This boy already has irritated skin around his eyes (it looks like he's just been scratching at it too). With the knowledge that Tenko at this point in time still is quirkless, I think it's fair to say that the allergies are not an early symptom of Decay. It only itches at home. Because the itching is purely psychosomatic. Because it's a stress-response/anxiety-response to the environment this young boy is forced to come home to every single day.
This boy is 5. He's 5. It's not normal for a 5-year-old to think thoughts anywhere near "does my father hate me?"
Kotaro has already put a fear in this little boy, which doesn't stop or go away as soon as he's punishment does. The trauma in this boy is already so big that he thinks about these things in the moments when his dad isn't even actively scolding or punishing him.
It doesn't take a destructive quirk to cause a physical response like itching. All it takes is being constantly afraid of when you're going to be yelled at next, when you're going to be punished next, all by the hands of the parental figure you aren't sure even loves you at all.
It only itches at home. Especially when the four walls of your house are a prison.
This chapter confirming my theory that AFO has terrible media comprehension reflecting that of MHA fans who are hating on this story for humanizing the evil characters
I personally am not fond of when people talk about spinner like he isn't human (like specifically saying human is a different thing than what he is) , or when people assume his quirk would effect his genetics in a way that makes him sterile. Like?? He has a very normal mutation quirk. He isn't an animal with a quirk, he's a human, and he has a lizard quirk that just happens to affect his appearance. Tsu has a frog quirk and I don't ever see this about her, and we all know why. Her dad looks just like a fucking frog and I'm guessing since he managed to sire multiple kids he's firing on all cylinders so why the fuck would Shuichi's quirk make him sterile?? He's just a normal ass person with a snout and scales. (I am not counting you monster fuckers with egg fetishes, I understand why that is a plot point often for y'all lol).
But for the rest of you, how can you miss the point about heteromorphs so fucking hard?
You know it’d be funny if it weren’t so sad how many times the villains are the ones to attempt to open some form of dialogue.
Only for the heroes to respond “No. You hurt people. Shut up.” Or perhaps worse; “I just don’t care.”
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Me: I'm done yapping
Reads Viz's translation for chpt 427
Actually no I'm not.
Let's talk about Izuku Midoriya, intense hero fanboy, everyone he looks up to is a hero, ect ect
Passively listening to Spinner as he sorrowfully tells him "he was my friend. He was my hero".
Like??? Midoriya doesn't even bat an eye but at the least that should resonate some with Midoriya. He can at least imagine what it'd be like to (permanently) lose All Might/Toshinori. Or Bakugou who was dead for long enough in the Sky Coffin. And we get.... A close up of Midoriya, showing some dark circles under his eyes and a blank stare. What. The. Fuck. Does he have so little empathy once people turn into "villains"? That he can't sympathize and try to ease their pain? And we're supposed to believe he has this incredible heart that's so inspiring to even antagonistic characters who've otherwise lost hope in hero society? (I'd maybe say that he's still processing the end of the war, dealing with his own stuff, ect ect and excuse that lack of interaction if not for the fact that he quips back "make it a comic book" - which he's not a big quip person so it's not like that's in his character to do, especially not during emotional exchanges. I'm sorry but it's just... callous at worst, tone deaf at best)
If someone can explain this chapter's Deku to me - not with suppositions, but with canon only evidence - that'd be great. But I no longer believe that Midoriya has such a great heart. Show don't tell, but we had plenty of telling and little showing.
Whomp whomp Izuku stans
"He's only a teenager. How was a teenager supposed to save a batshit villain" wrong. Izuku is a hero. I am so sick of this "he's only a child:(((" no. He's a hero.
If Tomura can only be a villain then Izuku can only be a hero.
And he is hero who failed (like all heroes failed and continue to fail). Did he fail because he's a teenager who shouldn't have been in a situation like this in the first place? Hell yeah. But he has never stopped to even consider that bc hero cool hero great.
Eri's touted as sort of a 'Tenko But Things Went Right', which isn't wrong, but I feel like her save relied a lot of luck too. And luck shouldn't be a determining factor in child welfare??
It was by pure chance that Deku and Mirio first encountered her. 100% random bump. Nighteye had no idea about any child in the Shie Hassakai compound, despite having staked it out for at least a few days already.
The rescue effort was launched to save Eri, yes, but only because the Heroes had that one lucky detail to connect “DNA inside bullets” to “visibly injured child”. Without that...who knows? If Heroes had no compelling evidence to storm the compound, would they have just continued a routine drug investigation? If they raided the compound but didn’t know about the child beforehand, what would’ve happened to her? Shunted off to an orphanage because she’s ‘a criminal/yakuza’s child’? Place under HPSC supervision because of her relation to the bullets?
The manga itself stated that Eri was going to be sent off to an orphanage, BUT her out-of-control quirk was cause for concern and fortunately there was the one (1) guy who can suppress her quirk and help train her - who happened to be a teacher at a private educational campus run by a multi-millionaire who can afford to take her in as a ward. How amazingly lucky!!!! (And everyone themselves said that they were hoping to teach Eri how to use her quirk so that she can cure Mirio. How nice that her quirk is deadly but also has this miraculous healing ability that lends this additional incentive to take her in.) Eri is still only in custody of UA because her last living blood relative, her grandfather, is still in a coma. Would Pops ever want her back, if he ever wakes up? Would UA let him? Good thing UA has the resources and connections to win a custody battle, in this case.
Plus, before all of that, Eri was already another abandoned child, way before the Heroes ever learned of her. Her mom abandoned her; then her grandfather took her in, but when he fell into a coma, she ended up with the worse possible caretaker. Yeah, Overhaul is Overhaul, but a relative falling ill and being unable to take care of a child is something that can happen to any family.
Eri was abandoned by her mom because she killed her dad. What on earth was the police doing then? Did her mom is not report this? Five seconds after the dad disappeared, the mom immediately plopped the toddler in the car seat and drove her off to Pops? Or is it more likely the mom screamed and panicked and called emergency services, but it turned out that there’s nothing to be done about the dad… and then emergency services also apparently did nothing about the mom or Girl With Newly Lethal Quirk or the beginning of quirk counseling so that the mom could understand the accident as ‘mutant quirk’ and not ‘curse’??
There were points where Eri could've been saved, before she ever bumped into Deku, before Overhaul put Pops in a coma and started cutting her up.
Similarity, saving Tenko shouldn't have just been 'Hero happened to be in the area and wasn't busy and was able to spot this injured child and go help him' (if it doesn't turns out AFO was behind this too lol), or 'if only there could've been a Hero 15 years ago who could handle his quirk, hold his hand, and give him relief'. It should've been 'first person who saw this injured child called the police or took Tenko to a police box'. It should've been 'Kotarou's last act of parenting was not to pick up garden shears and whack his kid with it, but know to keep calm and know what to do in a quirk emergency' or whatever. It should've been 'the three other adults in the household had enough conscience to not let Kotarou bully his toddler'. Hell, it should've been 'All Might and Gran kept tabs on the Shimura boy'.
idk. I just don't think 'Luckily a Hero noticed!' is good enough.
"Touya loves his dad" and "Touya hates his dad" both don't get the full picture. Dabi loves the IDEA of Enji as his father but he HATES the person Enji is. Any love he has is for the idea of what his father *should* be or *should* have been and his hatred is based on the reality of who Enji is as a person
anyways if kurogiri isn't nonbinary why are they literally a walking nonbinary flag. checkmate.
Are people genuinely thrown off that Enji's choice is to passively accept his "punishment" and pretend he doesn't have the agency to talk to Touya and deescalate the situation? This is the most in character he's been for the past 100 chapters. Enji's always preferred wallowing into his regrets, ugly crying about them and about how his family is right to hate him and calling this pointless self-flagellation "atonement" , rather than actually challenging his self-perception long enough to change the way he acts towards his victims
funniest genre of bnha fans who still exist are dobihokers who think dabi owes hokes an apology. hokes should thank dabi for only burning off his wings when dabi should’ve crazy murdered him god bless🙏
So does this ending signify we’re getting AFO Vs Endeavor & Hawks next chapter? That seems an…odd choice.
Like, I’ve mentioned more than once how this arc is tragically tensionless because the whole war’s stacked too much in the heroes favour; with the villains VASTLY outnumbered, outgunned, & outplayed. The heroes have a few hundred times the forces they actually need to win this war, and that’s taking Tomura & AFO into account. So long as a proportionate amount of heroes were sent their way with any modicum of pre-planning (both of which seems to be true), this fight is already over.
And that’s true for the other fights too; Bakugou was right for the wrong reasons when he said it was obvious Shoto would beat his brother, and the Spinner & Toga fights are pretty much already decided too, baring an increasingly unlikely upheaval to the whole war. But those fights still work because we really care about the characters involved and their connections.
Not really the case here; these are some of the most polarizing/outright hated characters in the series, and I’d be wondering who to root for if there was any question of who would win, so my initial thoughts seeing this match-up were “if ever there was a fight that could happen off-screen”. I think the only thing I’m interested in with this is seeing what reason Endeavor absolutely had to be here instead of confronting his son.
Call this a conspiracy theory
but with the recent reveal about Tenko's quirk and having spent some time dwelling on the details of Touya's death there are more and more things not making sense in the context we were given.
Touya died in a fire on Sekoto peak after having a breakdown which lead to him losing control of his fire. This happened notably on a day when Enji was at home, having a day off from work.
Then Touya's burned body was taken away by All For One, who had broken off a fragment of his jawbone and planted it as evidence of his death.
As neglectful as Enji may have been as a father, he was still a hero. I have no doubt he got to the mountain as soon as he realized there is a fire. The Todoroki mansion was also located close to the Sekoto peak, as both Enji and Touya used to go there regularly to train. Are we really supposed to believe AFO just so happened to come across the fire started by Touya, manually break off his jawbone, leave it there and get away from the mountain with his body faster than it took for Endeavour to come there? Enji is the one living there, not All For One. Touya's breakdown is not something that can be predicted by the other party, unless they are keeping close contact with the Todoroki family. Ujiko directly confirms they were indeed aware of the private matters happening in the Todoroki house, which lead to AFO taking interest in Touya.
Those kids were our spares, in case anything happened to Tomura Shigaraki.
What did happen to Tomura Shigaraki, when he still was Tenko Shimura?
AFO sought him out when he was still a baby, and immediately took away his quirk factor. He was meeting with his father privately and encouraged his behaviour towards his son. He even contacted Tenko's friends. When Tenko was 5 years old, AFO personally passed the Decay quirk to him in another meeting.
AFO was a fucking control freak, manipulating Tenko's life to unbelievable degree. Everything that happened to Tenko was a doing of All For One, pretty much. And once he had hold on him, he kept him in complete control and isolation for most of his life.
Is it really so far fetched to believe that Touya's death on Sekoto was also AFO's doing?
We already have the confirmation Touya was one of Shigaraki's possible replacements and AFO toon specific interest in his quirk, before giving up on it.
We also know the only reason they let Touya go was because his body was so messed up Garaki prognosed his life expectancy after leaving the facility to be a month tops.
Another point that stands out is Touya's ice quirk awakening. The evolution of quirks explanation is handwavey at best. But if the condition for Touya was a near-death experience, then wouldn't a 13 years old boy who was used to dealing with minor burns and didn't want to burn to death fulfill those conditions better than a 24 years old man who was dealing with extreme burns on the regular and actively wanted to die?
Anyway, All For One is the one who started that fire on Sekoto, not Touya. In this essay I will-
This is probably a weird note to end my time with MHA's run on; but I find it so strange how I still see people calling Tomura out on just being a destruction-hungry villain with supposedly no plan or follow up...as though he is unique for that simplicity. Especially after the ending we got. Like, Deku and All Might never really had a plan when they were reshaping society by beating up the enemy and everything worked out fine for them, but does anyone call them out for just using violence to mindlessly solve everything with no further plan? (Well, yes. Me. Right now.)
Because like, really thinking about it; how different was All Might's plan from the start of his career to take down AFO and become a symbol, and Deku's plan to end the villains and bring everything back, from Shigaraki's plan to end hero society and bring about a world accommodating to the League? It all seemed to boil down to the same basic premise of Step 1) Beat everyone & everything making things worse, Step 2) ...it all just kind of works out from there. (I guess All Might planned on being inspiring and uplifting, but then we could also count Tomura's plan to be imposing and...uplifting but for different people. Deku was winging it every step of the way though.) Everyone's getting on Tomura's case for doing nothing but destroying; but all evidence from when the heroes do it suggests violence & destruction works. And it just never fails to bug me when people call Tomura out for stuff that's fine when heroes do it.
Which, yeah, let's touch on how it did just work out for Deku that way for no logical reason, least of all anything he planned. He punched out the big bad just like All Might and now things are like a hundred times better than they were under All Might with no more Tenkos abandoned in the street. If stuff like that just happens if you punch out your enemies hard enough, then why couldn't that happen for Tomura? Maybe if he had destroyed the government & hero society it would've, idk, been so fear/awe-inspiring that all the villains would've been nice and cooperative under the PLF and everything would've been fine. Or something. No more contrived than what we saw with the old lady plot line, MHA is just a series where that stuff works out. Heck, one time it actually did just work out that way for Tomura:
Again, violence and destruction works in MHA. I mean; duh, it's a shonen manga.
Plus all this is ignoring the fact that, unlike those two, Tomura did have a follow up to the violence. He did have a step two, or at least one & a half, after "beat down all the bad guys in the country." Rather than just going "and everything will work out from there," he had his guys plan for the future so he could say "and Spinner, Toga, and RD et. all will make sure everything works out from there." (Admittedly, not much; but also, not hopes and dreams.) He did have a plan, it was just the plan from the Overahul arc, where he was last asked to have a plan: leave it to his allies.
And hey, that means it's actually better than what we saw from genius All Might and brainiac Deku. So why are we still, even after everything was over, acting like there's some expectation as a villain he didn't meet? I guess it's just in the nature of a 'tantrum-having man-child who wants nothing but destruction' to put more forethought into the future he wants to build than the society-uplifting greatest heroes.
That or maybe everyone had really detailed follow-ups for when they won that Hori never went much into, but that'd render this post a bit pointless so shhh.
……………last time Shigaraki said "do your best". it was to a Overhaul that he left armless and "quirkless".
Ppl: “Glaze and nightshade all your art!!”
Also ppl: * does not mention that you need to have a fucking NVIDIA GPU and running nightshade on one image takes at best 20 minutes*
Like the online version of glaze/nightshade requires an account. And last time i checked they arent accepting new accounts because of the high pressure.
Like i make my art on my ipad. My MacBook is from 2014. If i tried to download and run nightshade on my decade old macbook and go throufg 10+ years of artworks i might as well just set it on fire.
every time someone calls the class from bnha a found family an angel dies. guys they are friends. thats what having friends is like. their teacher isnt their dad he is their mentor. each student has their own real individual family who loves them. except Shoto
BNHA Chapter 187 and Mad Love: The flower scenes
In chapter 187 of BNHA Natsuo and Fuyumi visit Rei in the hospital at the same time that Endeavour is fighting High End.
Natsuo ends up commenting on his fathers recent promotion as number 1 hero, and though chastised by Fuyumi he expresses resentment with everything Endeavour put their family through. He claims Endeavour left them behind. This is when Rei chimes in and says she doesn’t belive that, and that she thinks he’s trying to face the family.
What proof does she have, though? After all, she herself says she hasn’t seen Endeavour in ten years. Well, the proof to her claim is this:
Rei says that Endeavour brought her that flower and remarks he remembered she liked them despite her only telling him once.
Here’s the problem I have with this though: this chapter is the one that started building Endeavours atonement, and yet for Rei to be the one to create its foundation doesn’t sit well with me because she shouldn’t be having those opinions about Endeavour. He was her abuser for a decade, and the one responsible for her pain.
A single flower shouldn’t change Reis mind.
This fixation on the flower is what reminded me of a scene from another work that creates some unnerving similarities between the two
This is the flower scene from chapter 187:
And this is the flower scene from the DC comic Mad Love:
Some context about Mad Love:
It was a comic published in 1992 by DC comics, with Paul Dini and Bruce Timm as the writers and it was the first canonical backstory of Harley Quinn (other backstories would follow after, as is the case with American comics). The comic was all about Harleys abusive relationship with the Joker and how she seemed to be unable to realise just how bad he was for her. At the end it looks like she finally realises (after Joker throws her off a building)…. and yet, while still covered in bandages from the injuries he inflicted on her, she notices a flower he left her… and changes her mind once more.
Of course it must be said that Harley is a very, very different character from Rei, but these two scenes have a lot in common:
Both are women that experienced abusive relationships
Both of them are hospitalized because of their abuser
In the hospital, both receive a flower from their abuser as a form of “apology”
In both cases the flower seems to be proof enough for them to change their mind about their abuser for the better.
Perhaps the only difference is that in Mad Love this change of heart from Harley is framed as wrong and tragic. In the foreword of the comic, Paul Dini wrote he saw Mad Love as “… a cautionary [tale] about what happens when someone loves recklessly, obsessively and for too long”.
Horikoshis intent with his scene however, seemed to be the opposite. As I said before, what Rei says about Endeavour sets up his atonement. Its meant to be a hopeful moment, a good moment. But not for Rei. For Endeavour.
Mad Love tells the victims story. Chapter 187 is there for the abusers benefit.
Now. After writing all of this:
Do I think that Horikoshi made this connection with Mad Love on purpose? NO
Do I think these similarities with Mad Love are unfortunate and damaging to Reis story? YES
Every time I read that scene in the manga or watch it in the anime I cant help but remember Mad Love. And it’s endlessly frustating that BNHA tries to frame that scene as good when it very much shouldnt be. Because there is already a story that framed a similar scene as the tragedy it very clearly was.
Reis two appearances outside of flashbacks in the manga have mostly served to develop her abusers story, but I still have some hope that she’ll be able to escape Endeavours suffocating presence in the manga and break free of his influence.
Just like Harley eventually did.
I’ve only seen the LOV seiyuu event being passed around through twitter screencaps (which is annoying to read imo) so I’m copy+pasting @/shibuyasmash’s posts about the skit below the cut. The full thread can be found here.
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The stage is dark except for a light on AFO’s voice actor, and the skit starts with a monologue by All For One in Tartarus. He’s musing about how boring it is in Tartarus and how they can monitor everything but his thoughts.
All For One ponders about how a Quirk that could control the mind & heart could be the most powerful and simple way to get what he wants. But AFO decides a Quirk like that would make things unsatisfying and boring.
All For One remembers his brother reading the comic and thinks about how the last interesting conversation he had was with All Might wearing his sad looking loose hero costume.
All For One thinks about All Might is too sentimental and has to let his student go to learn on his own, like AFO has done with Shigaraki after raising him carefully for all these years…
We then fade away from All For One’s thoughts and see his beloved student Shigaraki… in a room that’s all messy and trashed. They show a picture on the screen of the messy room & the lights turn on the LOV voice actors. All of the LOV is there except for Dabi.
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something i’ve been turning around in my head for a bit: i think it’s different being disappointed when a character with no clear motivation or set of values takes a turn you personally didn’t want, versus when a character who DOES have a clear, established motivation and values has those aspects abandoned. there were so many people who were upset with the direction hox’s character took, saying it wasn’t right for him and he should’ve stayed with the LOV, but honestly hox betraying them was always a possibility and there was no established characterization that ever implied he wouldn’t side with the heroes. just because there was a lot of fanon and theories about it doesn’t mean hori “took” something from y’all or wrote badly just because you didn’t like it.
there’s more argument to be made that, for example, deku’s characterization is less consistent and the writing might be weaker with him. deku IS someone with more-or-less established motivations and values, who tells off shouto’s abuser early on but in the late series only seems to take a conciliatory approach to the todorokis’ situation. there’s at least a case to be made that deku turned way too much from his earlier stance on the issue and it felt manipulated in order to support the abuser’s redemption.
these two cases are just not the same.
