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um... read the title, basically lol.
here's something i just realized: you know how Jesus came from heaven from God the Father? that's kinda what Superman and Wonder Woman's origins are.
Superman: man from the heavens and stars coming to earth, embodying love, hope, and compassion BY HIS PARENTS (NOT LOIS LANE), teaching us to be the best versions of ourselves with or without powers. showing how to love and care for our fellow man and woman, treating others with respect and helping bad people reform (hurt people hurt people).
Taken from Adventures of Superman #41 by Max Landis
Wonder Woman: blessed with the powers of the Greek gods and goddesses, embodying love, hope, peace, and compassion, believing in second chances, advocating for women's rights, showing how to love and care for our fellow man and woman reform (NOT TAUGHT BY STEVE TREVOR), always willing to offer a hand in peace before using violence AS A LAST RESORT.
Taken from Wonder Woman Volume 3 #25 by Gail Simone
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a little thing for the gamers out there: DC Universe Online is doing a Superman event!!! you can get the Superman emblem doing the various missions and such! (see below) I'm SUPER excited! (i know, that joke was "SUPERb!" two in a row! WHOO! i'm SUPER good at this!, don't ya think?)
now i recommend not playing the game if you have not started already. it's a good game, but there's lots of demonic $hit in there. you may not see them, but they are real. felt some, heard some, know people who've seen them. they can show up in places you don't think they could. be VERY F*CKING CAREFUL. the devil (that POS) got me into p0rn, made me su!cidal, and got my cousin killed two years ago in a hit and run.
that being said, HAPPY SUPERMAN DAY! WHOO!
@comicsclois @hellyeahsupermanandwonderwoman @hellacre13 @smww4ever @godstaff @worldsfinestpowercouple @muiltifandomnerd
I’d also like to add these. some of these overlap with the other list above and some of my mentions are a bit of a stretch as they don't show Supes and Wondy together, but whatever. we'll milk our ship.
Superman: The Doomsday Wars #1
The Brave and the Bold #7
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New 52
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Action Comics #10
Superman #13 (their kiss in JL #12 is referenced), 14 (their kiss in JL #12 is seen), 15, 16, 17, 19 (you'll like this one), 43 (WW seen in a couple panels. SM and WW not seen together, though), 45 (WW alluded to. not seen)
Batman/Superman #4, 11 (Superman not present)
Superman Annual #3: Savage Dawn
Post New 52
Wonder Woman #3 (Superman mentioned), 7, 16 (Clark appears in back up story but SM and WW aren't seen together)
Future State: Immortal Wonder Woman #1
Action Comics #1000, 1018 (shared panel(s))
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Elseworlds
The Dark Knight Returns
The Dark Knight 3: The Master Race #4 (our boy and girl aren't seen together, but they appear in the comic)
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i'll add more when i get more comics lol. God bless and thanks for reading
Thanks to user Xarek at Comicbookresources, the list of moments for Superman/Wonder Woman has been further updated.
SUPERMAN / WONDER WOMAN RELATIONSHIP CHECKLIST 1.3 ————————————————– Action Comics 598, 600, 754, 761, 781. All-new Collector’s Edition: Superman vs Wonder Woman C-54 (1978) The Adventures of Superman (1988) 435,440,522,628,642,643. The Adventures of Superman Annual 06 Superman 80-page Giant 2 (1999). Superman Batman 9-13,18 Superman’s Girlfriend - Lois Lane 93, 136. Superman v2 05, 07, 17, 118, 156, 165, 173, 661. Superman v1 241 (1971) Superman v1 Annual 11 (1984) Superman - Distant Fires (1998) Superman - Red Son (2003) 1-3. Wonder Woman v1 131 (one panel), 300 (1983) Wonder Woman v2 8, 15, 16, 50, 61, 88, 112, 125, 126, 140, 141, 142, 162, 170-176, 195, 212, 219, 220, 226. Wonder Woman v2 Annual 2 (1989) Wonder Woman - Spirit of Truth (2001). World’s Finest v1 (1971) 204 All-Star Batman and Robin 5 DC Comics Presents 9, 32 (1981), 76. DC - The New Frontier (2004) 1-6. JLA - A League of One (2002). JLA - Midsummer’s Nightmare (1996) 1-3. JLA - Our Worlds at War JLA - Act of God (2001) 1-3. JLA - Created Equal (2000) 1-2. JLA - Riddle of the Beast (2003). Justice League of America v1 1 (1960), 69 (1969), 143 (1977), 170 (1979) Justice League of America v1 Annual 6 (two panels - 1992) JLA v3 83, 96, 101-106. JLA v4 0, 25, 26, 31. Legends of the DCU (2000) 30-32 Trinity (2003) 1-3 JLA - Secret Files and Origins 01. JLA - Seven Caskets. JLA/JSA: Secret Files & Origins 1 (2003) JSA - Thy Kingdom Come 1-3 TPB (2009) (Includes: Kingdom Come Special - The Kingdom (2008)) The Kingdom (1999) 1-2 Kingdom Come (1996) 1-4 The Dark Knight Strikes Again (2002) 1-3 Countdown Presents: The Search for Ray Palmer - Red Son (2008) Teen Titans v3 Annual (2006) 01 JSA 06, 11, 17, 22 New52 Era ———- Action Comics (2014) 31, 34 (one panel). Justice League - Gods and Monsters 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 Earth2 1 Forever Evil 3, 7 (one panel) Injustice: Gods Among Us - Year One 4, 6, 9, 25, 29. Injustice: Gods Among US - Year Two 4. Injustice: Gods Among Us - Year Three 15, 24. Superman (2011) 14 (one panel), 15, 19, 20 Superman - Doomed 1 (2014). Superman/Wonder Woman (2013-2016) 1-9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 25, 28. Superman/Wonder Woman Annual 2 (2016) Superman/Wonder Woman Futures End (2014) Justice League (2011) 3, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 Justice League International Annual 1 (2012) Justice League of America (one panel - 2013) Young Romance 1 (2013) DC Universe vs. Masters of the Universe (2013) 03
Superman (when put next to Batman) power scaling be like:
✨the plot thickens✨
EDIT: Ayo DC, stop being lazy and write Superman well!! Make Superman Super Again! Superman was holding back whenever he fights Batman! He was just trying to keep Bruce from hurting himself or others in TDKR
he said “if I wanted it, you’d be dead already!” In BVS!
And stop with the Clois and WonderBat stuff! Supes is held back by Lois and Wonder Woman would NEVER go for Batman. Put SuperWonder back on! (We don’t want Supes and Wondy to overshadow each other. Supes’ creators even said LL wasn’t supposed to end up with Supes!)
She’s the spirit of truth. He’s the spirit of lies and deception. He talks down to everyone and is willing to take you and your friends down in a heartbeat yet won’t stop those who have no interest in repentance! Even Bruce Timm said he didn’t know what to do with WW so he decided for all women to go after Batman!
Remind me why the non-people person is the one leading the JL? Supes and Wondy have proven to lead well. Superman even led the JL before he died! Come on now! It’s called the DCU! Not the BCU (Batman Centered Universe)! look, I love Batman, by stop making him overshadow everyone! Blue beetle, booster gold, animal man, swamp thing, flash, green lantern, and countless others could be household names like the big 3 if DC is willing to make it so.
look at marvel! So many people know so many different heroes from their cast. They write them well, made modern modifications to make it appeal to the 21 century, and now everyone knows who the Avengers, defenders, guardians of the galaxy, Illuminati, X-Men are!
okay so I realize I went on a rant, but shut up.
point is, make Superman Super again! And all other Superheroes again! And bring back SuperWonder
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image taken from Hallow. Free app. Really great. I find myself more excited to pray. I used to see it as a chore. Now it’s a time to rest and reflect.
Ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, you all have a gift. Use it for God’s glory and for your community.
never doubt yourself. You may look around and see how many people have so much power and influence, making yourself wonder if you’re even making a difference, but that’s okay!
SOMETIMES the big people may lose sight of the little issues. That’s where YOU come in. You keep your ear close to the ground, seeing things from the people’s perspective instead of the bird’s eye view.
You don’t change the world overnight. You make a win with what you have. Did conquerors take the land in one swift move? No! There was extensive planning involved, many revisions, along with physical and mental preparations in place.
did Bruce Wayne become Batman overnight? No! He had YEARS of training to get where he is now! Did Superman become the symbol of hope in one go? No! He operated in the shadows, trying not to be seen as a kid and a young adult (depends on continuity). But then Lois Lane happened… always trying to be front and center… 👏 not 👏 everything 👏 is 👏 about👏 YOU, 👏LOIS!👏 🙄. She’s the type of person to be on camera talking about the news but will be covering the shot lol.
Supes’ creators even said that Lois was never supposed to end up with Clark Kent.
But anyways, they were always learning. Always improving. They can’t save everyone, but they get who they can. They give their best and reflect then improve.
remember the parable of the talents in Matthew 25:14-30 (see below). The three servants had various talents. Two of them did what they could with the hand dealt to them. So keep going. Motion is motion. At least you’re moving.
“I don’t care if it’s slow progress, motion is motion.” (Great song. “Wake up!” By yvngxzaye)
YOU do YOUR part, God will do His part. He’ll add to your talents.
After all, we can’t expect God to do ALL the work.
So just keep swimming. Just keep on keeping on. Forget all the others. You do you. Focus on yourself.
“for the righteous man falls seven times and rises again.” -Proverbs 24:16 For all my fellow tired, depressed, $uicidal people, your feelings are valid. I understand more than you know. But know that you are loved, chosen, desired, accepted, respected, wanted, needed. By God and by me. Just keep going. Take it one day at a time. Little by little.
It’s not called the BCU (Batman centered universe)
You see, pre-Bruce Timm and DCAU, (no hate on him but he’s really massacred so many characters) so many characters had the potential to be household names. Heroes such as Blue beetle, booster gold, the multitude of lanterns of all emotional spectrums, fire, ice, aquaman, etc.
but then brucie Timm made brucie Wayne the batgod we all know he is NOW, having all the ladies give their attention to the alpha male, including our alpha female Princess Diana of Themyscira. and Superman, who was the leader of the Justice League, was reduced to a pair of fists. All brawn, no brain (except in his own comics. Supes has a scientific mind and so does WW, but that all goes away when near Batman.)
ever since Batman’s rise, all other heroes’ IQ were reduced to negative integers whenever in a 10 mile radius of Batman. I mean, Batman claims he works alone, yet here he is bossing everyone around.
Diana hates being controlled and told what to do, but here she is bowing down to Batman. Even Catwoman stands up to Batman, but not WW? I thought she was a feminist icon? Female empowerment and gender equality? Gone when Batman is around?
even Bruce Timm admitted he didnt know what to do with our girl Diana and decided the strong, tough, independent woman should be out of character and drool whenever Brucie was around. I mean, Batman had to save Wonder Woman from her own villain. Come on, now.
again, I love Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, but it’s time to slow down with the Batman being batgod.
Ayo, i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
this is coming from someone who enjoys Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, (Clois) Superman and Lois while also being a SuperWonder shipper at heart
I find it a bit hypocritical that people are going crazy over Lois Lane getting superpowers when they’re also the ones who say (cheating) Lois “grounds” Clark and their relationship is special by having no powers.
They’re going berserk over Superman and Wonder Woman getting together yet once (cheating) Lois Lane gains powers. It’s literally just Superman and Wonder Woman’s dynamic all over again.
People always say that if Superman and Wonder Woman get together, their values are gonna change and they’re just gonna be unstoppable tyrants on earth because of their powers.
if you can’t see Supes and Wondy past their powers and they’re matching costumes you’re just like Lex Luthor and Steve Trevor. I mean DC themselves said that they are more than just their powers. They want to work together to save the Earth long way—-they both have something to fight for….together. (see the ultimate guide to Wonder Woman)
“They aren’t people at all. They are power. Unpredictable, horrendous power, and nothing more.” -Lex Luthor, Superman/Wonder Woman #5
“I realize that the two of you were meant for each other. Matching costumes. Matching cost powers. Felt like fate. And as weird as it might sound, I found that comforting. You made each other happy.” -Steve Trevor, Superman #48
Don’t be blinded by nostalgia. Clark was raised by HUMAN parents, loved by HUMANS and aliens, and loved HUMANS and aliens alike. To say that he needs a HUMAN in order to understand humans is a bit disrespectful to everyone else who poured into Clark’s life (including DC’s precious batgod).
Isn’t the human thing to do is to love and be loved? To serve God and serve others Regardless of color, origin, and background?
Would that not apply to both Supes and Wondy too? They were loved by their parents, loved the people around them, were hurt and bullied, learned to find their place in the world, and were taught by their parents to love the people they shared this messed up rock with and to help others. And this was BEFORE they met Lois and Steve.
Also, modern steve and Lois is literally everything what Diana and Clark were back in the OG comics. Diana wants Kal, Clark, and Superman, and Clark wants Wonder Woman and Diana.
In the older comics, Clark and Diana were the butt the joke in their own comics (nothing changed now)—-their love interests only wanted their superhero identities. Then DC gave their dynamics to Lois and Steve for whatever reason.
to sum it up, they literally made Lois into Wonder Woman. Congratulations.
why not put Lois and Steve together? Lois Lane, whose dad was a General, be paired up with Steve Trevor, who works for the US military and ARGUS? or Lois and Lex? They both have matching initials and both are ambitious and shove everyone down who get in front of what they want. They both are power hungry try to be top dog.
Also, (this is coming from a formerly bi person, not important in this context): i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. I also found ways to combat lust, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
this is coming from a Wonder Woman fan, a Superman fan, a Batman fan, a SuperWonder fan and a Clois fan.
you only want the best for Diana, and so do we. And the best is Superman. Not Batman, not Steve trevor, or anyone else. just Superman. Clark for Diana and Bruce for Selena. And how about we have Lois and Steve be put together? Lois’ dad is a general. Steve does some army work and ARGUS/government stuff.
we don’t want to Clark to overshadow Diana. But If you pair her up with Batman, then you know how it will be—-DC will just make Diana the property of Batman because Batman is more popular than Wondy, so people only recognize her as “Batman‘s girlfriend” and nothing more. Superman and Wonder Woman used to call out Batman for his bat$hit but nowadays they just tolerate everything he says because he’s Batman.
DC already massacred Superman’s character. He used to be the leader of the Justice league in the 80s right before he died, but then after Bruce Timm showed up, the DCU became the BCU (Batman Centered Universe)
post Bruce Timm and Frank Miller (no hate on them but stop pandering) Superman became all brawn and not brain, all other heroes’ IQ’s are reduced whenever they’re in a 10 foot radius of Batman, and all the ladies gave their attention to Batman—Including our girl Diana, who is completely out of character in the DCAU Justice League cartoons. she is NOT desperate for any man’s attention in the comics.
tell me, ladies and gentlemen, would you want Diana—-a self respecting Amazon—-to be with Batman?
Batman—-the guy who talks down to his teammates and always acts like he’s better than everyone, is ready to take you and your friends down in a heartbeat but is unwilling to end those who have no interest in repenting (jonkler), doesn’t trust you, and treats everyone like his pawn?
Yeah… exactly… don’t be blinded by the cool gadgets and the dark mysterious aura and the fact that he gets girls (they only want him for his looks and money. They don’t actually love him. Matthew 5:28.)
people always make this lame excuse that DC puts them together because of their similar powers, costumes, and popularity.
If you can’t see Supes and Wondy past their powers, then you’re just like Lex Luthor and Steve Trevor. They only saw them for their powers and costumes as many others do.
“They aren’t people at all. They are power. Unpredictable, horrendous power, and nothing more.” -Lex Luthor, Superman/Wonder Woman #5
“I realize that the two of you were meant for each other. Matching costumes. Matching cost powers. Felt like fate. And as weird as it might sound, I found that comforting. You made each other happy.” -Steve Trevor, Superman #48
Fans also say that Wonder Woman and Superman need a human love interest (Batman or Steve) to “ground them.”
Lois GROUNDS Superman? Steve GROUNDS Wonder Woman?
Isn’t the human thing to “love and be loved? To serve God and serve others?” Regardless of color, origin, and background?
Would that not apply to both Supes and Wondy too? They were loved by their parents, loved the people around them, were hurt and bullied, learned to find their place in the world, and were taught by their parents to love the people they shared this messed up rock with and to help others. And this was BEFORE Lois and Steve.
Supes and Wondy are each other’s equals—-emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually. They know what it’s like to live in a world made of cardboard.
But they also share the same goals and optimism—to better the world and end crime and all that through love and compassion. Not Arkham-style beatdowns.
Even the creators for Superman (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) and Wonder Woman (William Marston) said that they’re perfect for each other. Supes’ creators even said that Lois was never supposed to end up with Superman.
Also, modern steve and Lois is literally everything what Diana and Clark were back in the OG comics. Diana wants Kal, Clark, and Superman, and Clark wants Wonder Woman and Diana.
In the older comics, Clark and Diana were the butt the joke in their own comics (nothing changed now)—-their love interests only wanted their superhero identities. Then DC gave their dynamics to Lois and Steve for whatever reason.
Besides, Lois literally flirted with other men (yes, Batman included. See Batman: Hush) and made Clark jealous…in front of Superman. She even cheated on Superman with Jeb Friedman WHILE SHE WAS ENGAGED. Is that what you want for our boy in blue?
how about we have Lois and Steve be put together? Lois’ dad is a general. Steve does some army work and ARGUS/government stuff.
I hope you can see things from our perspective. We love Superman, Wonder Woman, and Superman and Wonder Woman.
thanks for reading. God bless and happy SuperWonder shipping!
P.S. (This is coming from a formerly bi person, not important in this context):Also, i don’t mean to force anything on anyone, but we have various types of evidence for biblical events, if anyone is interested. I also found ways to combat lust, if anyone is interested. (I’m talking archaeological evidence, miracles caught live, arguments against evolution, divine revelation, science, cosmology, fulfilled prophecy, evidence for the Bible outside of the Bible, God’s work in people’s lives, etc.)
well said. Or… “‘nuff said.” -Stan Lee.